89 points by gregsadetsky 12 hours ago | 7 comments
bruce511 2 hours ago
In the article I read the passion of a user.

Unfortunately users don't pay the bills - customers do.

For VC funded startups, the VC is the customer. Thus the company optimizes for customer satisfaction, not user satisfaction.

The cognitive dissonance necessary for users to believe they are customers, while at the same time believing the product should be free (or free adjacent) is impressive.

Clearly once customers no longer fund the company, the company closes. And the free users will complain.

Paying for a product does not guarantee it will survive. But not paying pretty much guarantees that the good times can't last forever. (Rejoice if you see ads, then at least you're being monetized.)

Veen 1 hour ago
Why did they buy it in the first place, then?
robotnikman 7 hours ago
>It’s easy to create value when you don’t have values.

Damn that hit hard

monster_truck 10 hours ago
I'm starting to understand that most earnest users of glitch have no idea the extent to which it enabled and was abused to do shitty things -despite the commendable efforts of everyone there.
alwa 7 hours ago
Since sibling commenters asked—the abuse mainly involved a heckuva lot of phishing, last I heard; for example:

https://threatpost.com/spear-phishing-exploits-glitch-steal-...

https://www.netskope.com/blog/glitch-hosted-phishing-uses-te...

Apparently the free ephemeral apps were (1) free, (2) easy to make and easy to make many of, and (3) hosted on infrastructure that targets tended to trust.

nemomarx 10 hours ago
any good look at that side of it?
metalliqaz 10 hours ago
I'm out of the loop... what shitty things?
NBJack 9 hours ago
I'll do you one better: WTH is/was Glitch? I think I'm so far out of the loop I've reached lagrange point 2.
Macha 9 hours ago
Low code tool plus hosting platform, and also the final form of Fog Creek which you may have heard about from Joel on Software blog posts if you read tech blogs 15 years ago
absurdo 9 hours ago
How many cuils are we talking about?
pvg 10 hours ago
chaosprint 9 hours ago
this is so sad... I remember lots of very good creative art works are deployed there. but it seems that people including myself are moving towards netlify and cloudflare
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