163 points by tosh 14 hours ago | 16 comments
chambers 12 hours ago
Hats off to Statsig. They built a stellar product. Superior to many of their industry competitors like Optimizely. Back when I was on an internal Experimentation platform, we were impressed how they balanced dev velocity & stat rigor https://www.statsig.com/updates These guys ship.

Business-wise, I think getting acquired was the right choice. Experimentation is too small & treacherous to build a great business, and the broader Product Analytics space is also overcrowded. Amplitude (YC 2012), to date, only has a 1.4B market cap.

Joining the hottest name next door gives Statsig a lot more room to explore. I look forward to their evolution.

stavros 6 hours ago
It gives Statsig a lot more room to explore how our cursor movements and keystrokes can train LLMs to emulate humans browsing the web, you mean?
3 hours ago
debarshri 11 hours ago
At peak amplitude's market cap was 10B
utyop22 9 hours ago
Amplitude is on track to be delisted lol
pjmlp 1 hour ago
Really? I never heard of them.

Meanwhile Optimizely is a new partner in our agency portfolio.

9 hours ago
barapa 8 hours ago
Imagine working for 13 years and creating something only worth 1.4B dollars. What pathetic losers
usui 8 hours ago
lol, lmao even

thanks for the laugh

decent satire

fakedang 7 hours ago
Sarcasm is lost on this crowd lmao
apetresc 5 hours ago
Can someone ELI5 what Statsig actually is? Their landing page is full of gems like "Turn action into insights and insights into action" and "Scale your experimentation culture with the world's leading experimentation platform" so I have no clue. It appears to be another analytics + A/B testing platform, but surely that can't be worth $1.1B to OpenAI?
chambers 14 minutes ago
Statsig's core value is their experimentation platform— the automation of Data Science.

Big Tech teams want to ship features fast, but measuring impact is messy. It usually requires experiments— and traditionally experiments need Data Scientists to ensure statistical validity or "correctness". Without a baseline of correctness, the results cannot be trusted. Ensuring correctness in a complex process like experimenting, means the DS has to perform manual labor: debugging bad experiment setups, navigating incomplete data and legacy infrastructure, trying to compensate for errors and biases in post-analysis, etc. Even with great DS effort, cases still arise where Team A reports positive numbers & ships their feature while unknowingly tanking Team B's revenue—discovered only months later when a data scientist is tasked to trace the cause.

Platforms like Statsig exist to lower the high cost of experimenting: enabling people to see a feature's potential impact before shipping (save money) while minimizing user frustrations (save time). They do so by establishing statistical correctness in the platform, eliminating common errors or issues at at each stage of the process for each user type. Engs setup experiments via SDK/UI with nudges and warnings for misconfigurations, while data scientists focus on higher-value work like metric design in SQL. PMs view shared dashboards and get automatic coordination notifications if their feature is breaking something. People still fight, but earlier and in the same "room," with fewer questions about what's real versus what's noise.

"Statsig"'s name represents this focus on reality—"statistically significant," separating real results from random noise. Statsig's platform, like others, lets companies define a standard for what they consider "real" impact across all experiments, while the platform quietly balances statistical correctness with user cost. The outcome is less data scientists to hire, less bad tooling to work around, less deep statistical knowledge required, and crucially, more trust & shared oversight.

Is Statsig worth $1B to OpenAI? Maybe. There's an art and science to product development, and Facebook's experimentation platform was central to their science. But it could be premature; I personally feel experimentation as an ideology best fits optimization problems that achieved strong product-market fit ages ago. However, it's been years since I've worked on Experimentation; someone can correct me about any part of this answer.

ygouzerh 28 minutes ago
It seems a mix of analytics + session-replay (e.g MixPanel) and feature flags platform (e.g Growthbook)
Brajeshwar 4 hours ago
I'm of the opinion that the marketing gimmicks that we see on some products but ends up either being acquired big or gets those big elusive contracts, is that they did those messaging on purpose to steer the general onlooker something else. However, their internals or when a customer talks to, say, the founders, they would narrate and then show such things that are 100x better than what we see in the open.
jijapiopq 5 hours ago
A buzz word driven company with a product meant to track users, their mouse movement, keyboard usage across the internet. Of course to help make the world a better place .... for shoving advertisements.
laichzeit0 3 hours ago
Tell me you've never used Statsig without telling me you've never used Statsig. It's an online controlled experiment platform. You know like when you want to figure out if a blue button gets more clicks than a red button or a green button, and you want to avoid the situation of some tech-bro calculating the average clicks on all 3 groups and going "this one is higher, so it must be better" because they have zero background in statistics and don't know how to correct for multiple comparisons or what power analysis is, etc.
shanecp 56 minutes ago
So it's an A/B testing platform?
mxstbr 12 hours ago
Initial Show HN four years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26629429

Congrats to the Statsig team!

morkalork 8 hours ago
1 comment - 13 points. Guess you should never feel bad if your own Show HN doesn't take off, it's not the end of the world!
behnamoh 12 hours ago
Are we supposed to post every blog/news post of OpenAI and keep fueling the AI hype? I think at this point people should know that OpenAI is just like any other company.
tibbar 8 hours ago
Statsig is big enough that its acquisition is interesting in its own right. Or maybe I'm biased because I spent quite some time setting up a Statsig integration at $FORMER_EMPLOYER. But if I've done that, odds are that a lot of the other people here have too...
MontgomeryPy 12 hours ago
This seems like a big shift for OpenAI into an enterprise applications vendor to me.
rchaud 12 hours ago
What else could they have been? Microsoft didn't give them $10bn to build out their B2C homework autocomplete service.
LudwigNagasena 8 hours ago
A skunkworks shop that aims at 100x returns by producing cutting-edge AI tech, not another B2B BigTech company. Isn't that the very image they cultivated in the media?
jitl 8 hours ago
How do you monetize cutting edge ai tech? Sell it. Who has money? Businesses.
overfeed 7 hours ago
IIRC, the pitch was AGI would allow OpenAI to print money by replacing humans in any industry and siphoning whatever was being spent on payroll for pennies on the dollar.

In reality, it's going to be enterprise and ads.

nateburke 7 hours ago
This is it. Does OpenAI have consumer DNA or enterprise DNA? It is very difficult to have both.
jitl 5 hours ago
place I work - Notion - does
babelfish 10 hours ago
It was almost certainly purchased just for internal usage. See: Rockset
drewda 9 hours ago
Agreed. There are dozens of startups and established companies providing analytics-y software. The fact that this one is being acquired by OpenAI doesn't make it any more newsworthy to anyone other than the people who are getting some OpenAI equity...
gchadwick 13 hours ago
The CTO of applications reporting to CEO of applications (who reports to the actual CEO) is kinda weird? I figure you're either the actual CTO or you're not a C-level exec and should have another title. Just more title inflation I guess. Maybe in same way you see VPs of X everywhere in some organizations we'll be starting to see CEO/CTO of X lower and lower down the org chart.
citizenpaul 8 hours ago
Sounds to me like another phase in the growth of the "Unaccountability Machine"

https://www.amazon.com/Unaccountability-Machine-Systems-Terr...

Oh the CTO approved it so we should blame them. No not that CTO the other CTO. Oh so who decided on the final out come. The CTO! So who is on first again?

nerdsniper 11 hours ago
“CTO” makes sense as a signal that “the buck stops here” for technical issues. They are the highest-ranking authority on technical decisions for their silo, with no one above them (but two CEO’s above them for business decisions)

If Mira Murati (CTO of OpenAI) has authority over their technical decisions, then it’s an odd title. If I was talking with a CTO, I wouldn't expect another CTO to outrank or be able to overrule them.

atty 11 hours ago
It would be quite strange indeed for Mira Murati to have a say over their technical decisions, considering she does not work for OpenAI :)
neom 13 hours ago
It's signaling P&L responsibilities. It's not that weird, at least not unheard of at all, just that it's typically done through "EVP" - So EVP Applications, VP of Applications Engineering, etc. - I'm guessing that the line items those "C"s who are not Sam are responsible for, are bigger than most F500 executives, and they're using titles to reflect that reality.
swyx 12 hours ago
just gonna point out that Google has done this as well and its not so much title inflation as it is just acknownledging the fact that if the unit they command was a standalone business they would well be worth the CEO/CTO title.
motoxpro 10 hours ago
Yep. CEO of YouTube, Google Cloud, etc.
prasadjoglekar 10 hours ago
Just look at any media agency (OMG as an example). There are CEOs up the wazoo, one for North America, one for EU etc.

In practice, these are just internal P&Ls.

geodel 13 hours ago
This C level thing is happening for decades. There are many with CTO title who manage groups sometime as small as 5-10 people. And they are not startups but large corporates.
giancarlostoro 13 hours ago
I'm just sitting here wondering what in the world "Applications" is, is that a subsidiary or what?
kridsdale1 9 hours ago
A thing that uses a model to have customers.
therealbilliam 13 hours ago
Apparently that's what they call ChatGPT, Codex, etc ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hansenq 11 hours ago
How come this acquisition gets to go through, but Windsurf didn't? There might be antitrust review here too, and Microsoft might also lay a claim to Statsig's IP due to their contract with OpenAI. Maybe Statsig didn't care that Microsoft would have access to the IP?
barrrrald 11 hours ago
Windsurf didn't not go through because of regulatory or MSFT issue – that was always a fig leaf. OAI walked.
creddit 10 hours ago
So there will be at least two separate technical organizations within OAI. Pretty small company (HC and product surface wise) for that.

Is Brockman now CTO over research specifically or is there going to be a weird dotted line?

gavmor 9 hours ago
Data/ML and Apps split seems pretty normal to me, even in a company of ~20. What makes a group of coworkers into "an org"? That they don't attend one-another's retros?
creddit 8 hours ago
Even if Data/ML and Apps are split, in a company of 20, they would almost certainly go to the same CTO.

Here you will have what appears per this article to be 2 but as I looked more into it, there are 3 (!!) CTOs (see here: https://x.com/snsf/status/1962939368085327923) one of which (B2B CTO) seems to be reporting to the COO.

So in this context, you have 3 (!!) engineering organizations that don't terminate in a single engineering leader. "Apps" terminates at the "Apps" CEO (Fidji), research org terminates (??) at Sama (Overall CEO) and then B2B terminates at the COO.

So either you have weird dotted lines to Brockman for each of these CTOs OR you are going to have a lot of internal customer relationships which don't have a final point of escalation. That's definitely not common at this size and, unless these are all extremely independent organizations from a tech stack perspective (they can't really be since surely they are all reliant on the core LLMs...), then there will be a lot more weird politics that are harder to resolve than having these organizations all under one technical leader.

Of course another alternative is OAI is handing out titles for retention purposes and "CTO" will be heavily devalued as a title internally.

i386 4 hours ago
> What makes a group of coworkers into "an org"?

Reporting lines that ladder up to a line in the P&L.

creddit 10 hours ago
Also, best of luck to current statsig customers lol
arthurcolle 10 hours ago
Like Anthropic
kevinastone 12 hours ago
Looks like Fidji is reconstituting her Org from Meta
kridsdale1 9 hours ago
It was extremely effective while it was running. I was there.
navs 5 hours ago
Have implemented Statsig in two companies as alternatives to LaunchDarkly and loved it both times. Going to be interesting how their other big customer deals with this purchase i.e. Anthropic
actualwitch 12 hours ago
boringg 12 hours ago
1.1 B talent acquisition comp I saw somewhere. That cant be right is it - not sure what the underlying company tech is.
kridsdale1 9 hours ago
StatSig is a reimplementation of Meta’s analytics and growth systems. The best in the world and how they’re able to enter and dominate markets and scale to billions in under a year.
LunaSea 1 hour ago
StarSig had $40 million of revenue.

Hardly billions.

asdev 11 hours ago
curious to hear people's experience using Statsig
bertil 11 hours ago
Curious to hear about how they feel about many key StatSig people walking away, and Vijaye going to lead a different product. OpenAI bought it for internal use. They plan to put the public-facing product into more of a maintenance mode.
tty456 12 hours ago
Who the heck is Vijaye Raji?
swyx 12 hours ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45108493

sister [deleted] comment said "He’s an extremely well-known and deeply respected engineer, leader, and founder in the Seattle metro region. This is a key hire for OpenAI, and a good one."

jijapiopq 5 hours ago
Some ex-facebook employee who developed a product for ... guess what - tracking users activity on websites to provide "analytics".
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esafak 10 hours ago
The Statsig CEO, of course.
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mikert89 12 hours ago
OpenAI is going to start competing with a ton of SAAS companies. I think we are going to see products 10x better than legacy saas products, many companies wont be able to compete.
nojvek 9 hours ago
> competing with a ton of SAAS companies

A a ton of companies will compete with OpenAI while their focus is divided amongst a 100 things. May a thousand flowers bloom!

flappyeagle 11 hours ago
I mean they can try. They’re not gonna be very good at it