Does the Zig Foundation have a policy against corporate sponsors?
Otherwise the lack of sponsoring from the "big players" seems rather shocking. You'd think that zig has a decent chance in helping MS/Meta/Google/etc. somewhere along the way.
Not at all. We would be definitely open & happy to learn that one of the big companies are using Zig and would be interested in supporting us.
(but we don't plan to give up board seats)
Very cool to see such a detailed report about finances.
The expenses listed here are accounting for 100% of the expenses paid by the organization. If you go fetch the 990 from the IRS and look at the totals, it will match dollar-for-dollar, cent-for-cent. So if I deleted taxes from this report, you would hopefully all be wondering, where did that $13,089.07 go?
Happy to answer any other questions.
Edit: I see the question is about income tax vs payroll tax categorization. As this isn't my area of expertise and it's getting late, I'll wait until tomorrow to check carefully and make any necessary clarifications.
> we need more recurring donations
Damn... really? More than $170k/year from Github Sponsors? That's got to be the most successful Github Sponsor income ever right?
What a waste of money, seriously
Source: https://rustfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Annual...
$15k seems pretty lean to me for Zig since it includes hardware purchases.
Rust gets at least a 1000x more usage than Zig, so their infrastructure costs are not as bad in comparison.
1. I highly doubt your ballpark estimate.
2. I don't think CIs care that much how many users a language has, they care about the number of computations they need to run for each commit/merge.
To give you a sense of Rust’s growth, check out this proxy for usage (https://lib.rs/stats). Usage roughly doubled each year for 10 years. 2^10 = 1,024. It’s possible Zig could manage a similar adoption rate after reaching 1.0, but right now it’s probably where Rust was in 2015.
> CIs don’t scale with the number of users
Each Rust release involves a crater run, where they try to compile every open source Rust repo to check for regressions. This costs money and scales with the number of repos out there. But it is true, this only happens once in 6 weeks.
But I think the factor that makes a bigger difference is that Rusts code bases are larger and CI takes longer to run on each commit.
But if it's also including the cost of all the CI and build steps for the entirety of Zig infra?
That seems pretty reasonable for me. Although maybe my cousin Katie could do it for 1/10th the price in WordPress