63 points by smartmic 6 days ago | 6 comments
Waterluvian 6 hours ago
Any sense how, if at all, C++ Immer and JS Immer relate as projects? They’re basically meant to be the same thing but I haven’t found either acknowledging the other.
acemarke 6 hours ago
Completely unrelated.

- Immer (C++) appears to be roughly equivalent to Immutable.js ( https://immutable-js.com/ ): a set of specialized data structures

- Immer (JS), on the other hand, uses JS Proxies to wrap plain values, traps attempted mutations, and then replays them to return a safely immutable updated final result

As far as I know, Michel Weststrate came up with the name independently (although I can't 100% confirm that).

(source: I didn't create Immer (JS), but I started using it in Redux Toolkit in 2018, am quoted in the docs about how much I love it, spent the last couple months doing performance optimization work that got shipped in Immer 11.x, and just put up some more bugfix PRs today. I'm a secondary maintainer at this point.)

eru 6 hours ago
'Immer' is just German for 'always' or 'eternal'. So giving that name to your library of persistent and immutable data structures is a fairly natural thing to do, without them having anything more in common than that.

(Of course, they might have more in common, I don't know.)

MeteorMarc 13 minutes ago
Immer is also a dutch word, with the same meaning as in german.
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gignico 42 minutes ago
I used this library extensively in a prototype of a project and it was awesome!

Besides performance, the API is very well thought.

naruhodo 6 hours ago
For the curious, yes they provide a garbage-collected heap [1] as well as reference counting.

[1] https://sinusoid.es/immer/memory.html#classimmer_1_1gc__heap

gnabgib 6 days ago
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nurettin 3 hours ago
Anyone else religiously went through 490 packages in cppget to make sure they aren't missing out?
asa 6 hours ago
Good stuff. Very good stuff.