The One Dollar Counterfeiter(amusingplanet.com)
116 points by cainxinth 2 days ago | 10 comments
seabass-labrax 3 hours ago
> 10 years went by and the search for Mister 880 turned into the largest and most expensive counterfeit investigation in Secret Service history.

The article doesn't explain why the Secret Service made this their biggest case, and it doesn't make much sense to me. If the dollars were accepted by the general population, it would cause an infinitesimal increase in inflation of no consequence to others. And if shopkeepers wised up to the false dollars and rejected them, at worst he was defrauding the public by a few hundred dollars a year. In either eventuality, surely the Secret Service had more notorious counterfeiters to track down?

tux3 57 minutes ago
The state reserves some of the harshest punishments for counterfeiters, since large scale counterfeit operations is one of the few crimes that is an attack on the state itself.

The US secret service was originally created specifically to combat counterfeit money, it's no surprise that they would keep tracking this man for a decade.

This man is unusual because he did the tiniest amount of one the most severely punished crime.

noduerme 3 hours ago
Maybe it's just that any investigation that takes 10 years is by definition one of the more expensive ones.
gradschool 1 hour ago
A small leak can sink a ship. The fake dollars weren't knowingly accepted. If public confidence in the value of money is lost, we're all in big trouble. The Secret Service was right to pursue the case zealously.
Barbing 4 hours ago

  Under ordinary circumstances, a federal counterfeiting arrest would have generated little sympathy. But the story of Emerich Juettner struck the public imagination immediately. Here was an old man surviving in poverty by printing crude one-dollar bills one at a time. He was not violent, greedy, or glamorous.

  At trial, Juettner admitted his activities openly. The judge sentenced him to only a year and a day in prison, and he was paroled after 4 months. He was also made to pay a fine of $1. It has been agreed that Juettner’s complete lack of greed was the rationale behind the light sentence. …

  Juettner returned to a life of normalcy, and lived out the rest of his days in the suburbs of Long Island, where he died in 1955, at the age of 79.
(Edit - thanks, leaving as a highlight)
a_t48 4 hours ago
Literally the single paragraph you omitted:

    After his release, Juettner briefly achieved celebrity status. His notoriety became so widespread that Hollywood adapted the story into the 1950 film Mister 880, directed by Edmund Goulding. Eventually, Juettner made more money from the release of Mister 880 than he had made by counterfeiting.
Barbing 4 hours ago
(Thank you!)
gobdovan 5 hours ago
Fun fact: in parts of East Africa, a $50 bill may be worth about 60-70 $1 dollar bills, due to the $1 bill being easier to counterfeit (and also more likely worn down).
noduerme 28 minutes ago
Very interesting. It's probably because fewer people take the time to counterfeit $50s, $10s or $2s than anything else. What about $100 bills? In Argentina, if you have an older $100 bill, no one will take it. And apparently there's a roaring trade in fake $20s in Costa Rica, which I only learned at a casino there recently when I took USD directly out of an ATM and had it inspected by a pit boss in the same establishment. It's ironic, because if I were someone with an interest in counterfeiting, I'd focus on forging Pesos or Colones or something no one looks at before I'd take a stab at USD.
madaxe_again 18 minutes ago
I’ve had USD rejected both for being too new and for being too old in various corners of the earth - different cultures seem to want their currency differently aged.
Barbing 4 hours ago
Immersed yourself there or…?
dnnddidiej 1 hour ago
That guy East Africas
m463 4 hours ago
In parts of the USA (well, amazon.com), you can buy bills of $10,000,000,000 from Africa for very little.

example: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01L3536O2

eesmith 3 hours ago
In parts of the US (well, eBay.com) you can by bills of 50 trillion from Europe for very little.

In other words, Africa is a big place. Just say "Zimbabwe".

freak42 4 hours ago
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kristianp 3 hours ago
One dollar in 1943 is worth about $19 today's dollars.

He started in 1938 and was arrested in 1948:

    1938 23.42
    1943 19.09
    1948 13.70
Enough to buy some supplies, but how did he pay the rent? Perhaps he owned his apartment.

https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/1948?amount=1

dnnddidiej 1 hour ago
If $1 is $19 I am suprised more people didnt check that their $1 notes are legit back then. Story makes it sound like $1 was chump change.
kennywinker 3 hours ago
> Juettner began working as a maintenance man and building superintendent in New York's Upper East Side. His job allowed him and his family to live rent free in the basement of the building where he worked.
rz2k 1 hour ago
Since they were silver certificates he could have redeemed them for a 26.73g coin composed of 90% silver and 10% copper. In 2026, the value of the silver has fluctuated between about $46 and $94 (and the value of the copper content has stayed a little over 3 cents).
sokoloff 52 minutes ago
Those stopped being redeemable for silver in 1968, so their value is no longer defined by the metal prices of 2026.
spwa4 54 minutes ago
If you swap them in stores, maybe. But taking counterfeit bills to the national bank is just stupid, even if very well made.
noduerme 1 hour ago
Would owning his apartment disqualify him from being a folk hero? If he was a renter, does he deserve to be a hero? Just wondering. If he'd gotten rich from printing fake currency and become a right wing dictator would you think the same as if he was just a broke tenant? Why or why not?
miksuko 55 minutes ago
The hell are you talking about?
noduerme 38 minutes ago
I'm talking about the vague implications the parent poster was making - the purposes of which weren't very clear, but which I interpreted as: "A) Money is worth less than it was, (so printing fake money is justified) B) But on the other hand maybe he was part of the propertied class (in which case it wouldn't be)". I was asking whether they had a moral compass.
RobotToaster 4 hours ago
>He was also made to pay a fine of $1

I wonder if the cashier checked the bill closely when he paid it.

Barbing 2 hours ago
If he wrote a check the office would’ve had a bet pool on whether it would be returned
Lutzb 2 hours ago
Maybe it was a test.
selcuka 2 hours ago
> He was also made to pay a fine of $1.

I see what they did there.

albert_e 3 hours ago
Is it possible that he might have spent almost $1 in materials and labor and allocated capital expenses on equipment ... to create each of these counterfeits.

Attempting this today would probably surely cost that much in today's dollars?

EDIT: on a second thought ..this almost feels like "proof of work" for currency :)

selcuka 2 hours ago
The U.S. government spends approximately 4.1 cents [1] to produce each $1 bill. It would probably be more expensive to counterfeit it because of the volume, but I doubt it would be more than $1.

[1] https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12771.htm

spwa4 56 minutes ago
These days it is much more effective to pay employees to swap payment terminals (or just employees doing it themselves), changing where the money ends up, and banks don't really know what to do about it.
zdkl 9 minutes ago
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neonstatic 4 hours ago
> References:

> The 70-year-old retiree who became America’s worst counterfeiter. [link]

He evaded capture for 10 years, making him one of the best. Also got less than a slap on his wrist and ended up making legal money on the whole ordeal.

Paracompact 1 hour ago
It feels like an increasingly common belief in the tech world, that "whoever dies with the most toys, wins." By such an account, this old man's cleverness, labor, and risk exposure must seem like the greatest squandering. So why should it attract our attention so, and without any apparent contradiction?

Perhaps our culture just contains multitudes like any other. Or perhaps, in addition, even the antithesis of a culture possesses an otherworldly charm to those who know nothing but that culture.