Server cards are not optimized for idle power usage. They’re expected to be fully utilized.

For server gear it’s more common to have less dynamic power and voltage switching because it produces more predictable performance and latency.

If my gpu is sitting idle, and I mean idle with nothing loaded into its memory, it's sitting at about 18W. If I load in model that uses nearly all of the memory but that model is idle, it's at 36W. If that model is actively thinking, it's like 118W. I think this is likely due to the GPU being aware that there is real data loaded into memory and turning up the DRAM refresh rate whereas when nothing is loaded, the dynamic power is as low as possible.

Yes, I have some of these cards and AFAICT the HBM2e chips just always run at full speed. I have different variants of the pcie cards and while I can get the gpu itself into a lower power state the memory just runs full tilt. Though I see 40w on my “normal” cards and 60w on the Frankenstein card that thinks it’s an sxm4.

I suspect the act of running nvidia-smi itself prevents the GPU from being put into a low-power state.

Hardware engineer here. Special casing the multiply by 0 and multiply by 1 paths is harder than it sounds. In software, the cost of adding special cases is simply performance. You're adding more instructions that execute in sequence on a CPU that already physically exists. Doing this for your multiply case is worthwhile because the speedup is large for 0 and 1 while the cost is not that large (relative to the time taken for the whole multiplication operation) for other values.

Hardware is different. Every operation that can be performed in hardware by a chip needs dedicated circuitry. Special casing 0 and 1 means adding at least OR reduction on each operand and a dedicated multiplexer for every bit of the output. Those transistors use power even when they're not in use (leakage power is a huge issue on modern semiconductor processes). They also degrade timing by adding more gates on critical paths through the multipliers. (The timing issue here is that all operations that happen between one flip-flop and another flip-flop need to finish within one clock cycle.) And unless there are whole blocks of 0's and 1's (this does happen in certain neural networks), you typically won't see a direct speedup anyway. In software terms, the matrix multiply is scheduled as many parallel operations that cannot be accelerated much overall by skipping a few operations in some "threads."

All of this makes zero skipping a nontrivial topic. People do still try to do it but it needs serious consideration as, depending on the application, the case is rarely one-sided.

>I went in expecting to find 'branch prediction'[0]

GPUs do branch prediction? I thought they didn't bother and try to minimize wasted effort by using high amounts of concurrent threads?

To be fair, the culprit in the article is _less complex_ than branch prediction: "with random data, bits are flipped often, and bit flips in transistors inherently draw power" is less mental gymnastics than "with random data, the cpu fails to predict the future, causing redundant speculative execution"

I expected a “torch is smart enough to keep track of cases where it just initialized the C in C <= A*B+C to zero, avoiding the add” type situation but I was wrong.

That's exactly what I thought.

So I guess we'll all be applying a random rotation to our matrices now to obscure their contents, like TurboQuant does. https://arkaung.github.io/interactive-turboquant/#rotation

This is not observable from LLM inference, where you would not encounter uniform matrices.

Power limiting does not improve performance but it does improve efficiency. You might be able to get 90% of the performance for only 70% of the power usage, for example. It does not make the card go faster though.

In general, constraints require optimizations and rearchitectures. I'd also expect the ram shortage for instance to have a big impact on the software industry as a whole, specially in games. They will need to make do with what people have, a ps5/pro or similar in PC power.

Here is one: An adjustment to weight updates, that makes it more likely for weights to stay uniformly distributed.

~257.5 teraflops for normal distribution, versus ~268 teraflops uniform, reported on the first graph.

I would have liked to see a straight graph of performance vs. clock speed, for each type of data. Pick your data statistics, then pick the peak performance clock speed accordingly.

And for actual runs, from a pre-run sampled curve.

And there's at least one more level of inception at the data center level, where they use AI to optimize power usage (particularly by predictively controlling cooling, and adaptively rescheduling tasks).