109 points by amai 4 hours ago | 10 comments
jbellis 2 hours ago
It tops benchmarks because it uses them in its training data. https://x.com/eliebakouch/status/2077425801633427919
krackers 1 hour ago
training on the test set is all you need
ch4s3 37 minutes ago
It's ready for law school!
sva_ 2 hours ago
Tostino 1 hour ago
That's just embarrassing. It keeps happening though.
AtlasBarfed 23 minutes ago
scrape the scrapers... all's fair...
sajithdilshan 2 hours ago
Disappointing. Sounds like Volkswagen 2.0
1 hour ago
skeledrew 1 hour ago
> the facility runs entirely on renewable energy, is cooled with water from the Eisbach canal, and feeds waste heat into the surrounding Tucherpark neighborhood.

That's it right there. Show the others how it's done. Can see going forward most model training being done in winter, making for a proper resource recycling ecosystem.

chis 1 hour ago
It's funny, my reaction was the exact opposite. Details like this show that they're fundamentally unserious and focused on the wrong things. Imagine if Germany, when developing their automotive industry, spent all their time focusing on reusing the waste heat from production to heat homes instead of just building great cars. They probably would not have sold many cars!
morsch 57 minutes ago
That is funny because Germany did in fact use the process ("waste") heat from steel mills for district heating on a large scale. The steel was then used by the automotive industry, among other things. We're talking 50+ years ago.
eigenspace 6 minutes ago
In most German cities, district heating is a rather common utility offering. There's pipes everywhere to move around the hot water to people's homes, and the water is typically heated by the waste heat from gas plants and waste heat from factories (though increasingly being supplemented with giant heat pumps).

This isnt some novel thing in Germany, selling excess heat from some energy intensive commercial proccess is pretty standard. The local district heating operator probably took care of almost all the infrastructure for them.

lejalv 1 hour ago
Survival! Wrong thing! Stay away! Sell cars, that's what you've got to do, at any price.
throw-the-towel 1 hour ago
But then again, AI is a paperclip maximiser after all...
justsomehnguy 15 minutes ago
Oh no!

Must resist... making... papercli

rapind 1 hour ago
Imagine Canada being on fire due to global warming while you write this comment.
mft_ 2 hours ago
Great to see more competition in this space, and especially from Europe, but... it's a shame when the benchmarks don't include the current best comparable models. They shows results against Qwen 3.5 and Gemma 3, but Qwen 3.6 and Gemma 4 have been available for ~three months.
neonstatic 1 hour ago
I bet it's doing really well against Llama 3 :)
throwa356262 3 hours ago
I think this news is more about the infrastructure than the model.

Either way, happy to see two open models from outside the us-cn duopoly in the same week.

beklein 2 hours ago
k__ 2 hours ago
"Fully open source model" with "Long-term, license-free availability for industry"

Nice trick to be not comparable with most other LLMs on the market, open weight or proprietary.

But I think, that's the right way.

doobiedowner 1 hour ago
How can we get these things to fight each other for sport? Real battle bots
sajithdilshan 2 hours ago
Better late than never. Germans have entered the chat
petcat 2 hours ago
More like Nemotron 3 with benchmaxxing enabled has (re-)entered the chat.
raychis 3 hours ago
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frb 57 minutes ago
I wanted to try it today.

Had to request access on huggingface, which was still not answered after a day.

Given all the Inkling and Kimi announcements, this atm just feels like too little too late to be taken seriously.

That said, it’s their first release and I hope they do catch up fast.